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Attending

Arijit Banerjee, Simeon Bogdanov, Zuofu Cheng, John Dallesasse, Peter Dragic, Lynford Goddard, Mark Hasegawa-Johnson, Ravi Iyer, Volodymyr Kindratenko, Erhan Kudeki, Steve Lumetta, Andrew Miller, Shaloo Rakheja, Umberto Ravaioli, Chris  Schmitz, Jonathan Schuh, Ilan Shomorony

Time and Place

Monday, November 2, 2:00pm, https://illinois.zoom.us/j/96972752638?pwd=Z3hqdUxYamNJazNYRkR0V1JmM0padz09


Old Business

Proposal to the College of Engineering for a Change to the Electrical Engineering Curriculum: 1) Replacing MATH 286 by the sequence of MATH 257 and MATH 285, and 2) Adding ATMS 201, CPSP 265, PSYC 204 as technical electives.  With these changes the number of required basic math and science hours is increased by 2 which will be deducted from the number of technical electives hours to decrease them from 32 to 30.

Proposal to the College of Engineering for a Change to the Computer Engineering Curriculum: 1) Replacing MATH 286 by the sequence of MATH 257 and MATH 285, 2) Removing CHEM 102/103 as a required course, and 3) Adding CHEM 102/103, ATMS 201, CPSP 265, PSYC 204 as technical electives.  With these changes the number of required basic math and science hours is reduced by 2 which will be added to the number of technical electives hours to increase them from 27 to 29.

Issue to be Addressed: Replacing Math 286 with the Math 257(Syllabus.pdf)+Math 285 sequence.  Concerns have been raised about the workload this imposes on students who enter UIUC without AP credit, Workload.xlsx.  Some points to consider:


  1. The proposed change of replacing MATH 286 and 2 hrs of Tech Electives with MATH 257 and MATH 285 has the following impacts on the difficulty level of our EE curriculum:
    1. creates a more intense and dense first two years, because of the inclusion of an additional math course in the first two year curriculum, unless a change is allowed in what constitutes the first 2 years of the curriculum — see (2) below, and
    2. creates a slightly less demanding 4 year program because a shift of 2 credit hours from 300/400 level (majority of tech elective courses) to 200 level
    3. the net effect will be a slight relaxation of the difficulty level of the overall 4-year EE curriculum with the provision (2) described below — this is so because the rigor levels of both MATH 415 and MATH 257 are comparable, according to Math department, both appropriate to 200 level MATH courses (despite the use of a 400 number in case of MATH 415 for previously relevant political reasons).
  2. A new feature of the revised curricula for EE and CE in order to address (1) may be to revise our Junior Eligibility Rule to allow one of ECE 210 and ECE 220 to be postponed to the student's 5th semester. With this
    1. Timely progress of EE students will not be impacted by the delay of ECE 220 to 5th semester
    2. Timely progress of CE students will not be impacted by the delay of ECE 210 to 5th semester
  3. Not part of the motion before the department: Allow substitution of MATH 257 with a more rigorous MATH 416 by those students who meet the MATH 241 prerequisite for MATH 416 (MATH 415 will be discontinued and will not be an option in the future) — this option is likely to be exercised by mathematically inclined students most of whom will also pursuing a MATH minor.


Status: following text will be sent to the department, in request for feedback.


Dear Colleagues,


The Curriculum Committee has proposed a revision to the first two years of the EE and CE curricula.   At the Department Meeting where I presented this proposal, concerns were raised.  I am therefore asking for feedback about the proposed curriculum change, preparatory to a vote of the department.


Context: The Department of Mathematics believes that the current content of Math 415 (Linear Algebra) could be, and should be, taught to first and second-year students.  In accord with that view, one of its current sections (Math 415PL1: syllabus attached) is a prototype of a proposed new course with the number Math 257.  Mathematics faculty have expressed the wish that Math 257 could be a pre-requisite for Math 285, so that Math 285 could include treatment of linear systems of differential equations.  Many ECE faculty have expressed the wish that ECE students should take a 3-hour linear algebra course, instead of the one hour of matrix manipulations currently provided in Math 286.   At the ECE Department Meeting on 10/6/2020, several faculty expressed concern that adding two hours to the first two years of the ECE Curriculum would place an undue burden on students entering our program without AP Credit.  In response, the Curriculum Committee proposes a change to the Junior Eligibility rule that will have the net effect of reducing the number of hours that are absolutely required of all students in the first two years.

Proposal to the College of Engineering for a Change to the Electrical Engineering Curriculum: 1) Replace MATH 286 by the sequence of MATH 257 and MATH 285, 2) Add ATMS 201, CPSP 265, PSYC 204 as technical electives, and 3) revise our Junior Eligibility Rule to allow one of ECE 210 and ECE 220 to be postponed to the student's 5th semester.  With these changes the number of required basic math and science hours is increased by 2 which will be deducted from the number of technical electives hours to decrease them from 32 to 30.

Proposal to the College of Engineering for a Change to the Computer Engineering Curriculum: 1) Replace MATH 286 by the sequence of MATH 257 and MATH 285, 2) Remove CHEM 102/103 as a required course, 3) Add CHEM 102/103, ATMS 201, CPSP 265, PSYC 204 as technical electives, and 4) revise our Junior Eligibility Rule to allow one of ECE 210 and ECE 220 to be postponed to the student's 5th semester.  With these changes the number of required basic math and science hours is reduced by 2 which will be added to the number of technical electives hours to increase them from 27 to 29.

Please send your feedback on these two proposals to Mark Hasegawa-Johnson, jhasegaw@illinois.edu.  Concerns raised during this open discussion period will be discussed by the Curriculum Committee, with your participation if you agree, with the intention of formulating a proposal text that is acceptable to all members of the faculty and that will enhance the value of Electrical Engineering and Computer  Engineering degrees earned at the University of Illinois.


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